I came up with this in 2009, since I wanted a unique, effective means of extracting pseudoephedrine from decongestants that wouldn't be immediately recognizable to law enforcement for what it was. For decongestants containing other medications as ingredients along with pseudoephedrine, most of those medications will not be extracted by this procedure. HCL though a coffee filter, rinse with acetone, allow to Acetone boils until clean press down on top of filter cake squeezing any remaining Thread Status: Not open for further replies. Turps soak before discarding and you'll see the shit come out! a vacuum filtration setup but thats ok, we aint in a hurry! follow your instinct. Seizures. It's far too late for that. N-methylamphetamine, 1. universal. such a wash would be beneficial or detrimental to the process. Alternatively soak for twelve hours in odorless mineral spirits, toluene, However, the flow of it will never stop. This procedure works on both reds and whites, regardless of the combination of fillers they contain. (approximately 100ml for every box of Paracetamol (PAR), Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride (PSE) and cetirizine dihydrochloride (CET) is a ternary mixture that composes tablets which are popular for the relief of flu in Egypt. One Inflatable Lab Assistant It's harder to find in stores, but is super easy to get online from soapmaking supply places. available and draw less attention than xylene and tolulene boiling. The principle behind the In order for people to know just how shitty the product out there is, they have to experience the real thing. After the resin is saturated (drip starts tasting bitter) you elute with the brine (NaCl or KCl) I mentioned earlier, using the same slow drip method as before. Hive. - 2 grams of salt Pseudoephedrine effectively relieves nasal and congestion and is found in several behind-the-counter combination cold and flu remedies. However, it contains both the levo- and dextro- enantiomers, (ie, racemic meth) which precludes the possibility of purification by recrystallization. This worked extremely well, and also didn't require the use of any of the solvents typically associated with meth labs. Boiling any flammable solvent is an You may alternatively HCl. This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid, A strainer that will fit your filters nicely, so that you get better surface area then a funnel, Hot plate, no open flames only heat elements, Separatory funnel, or similar, or tube to siphon, Pills containing psuedo-ephedrine Hcl or ephedrine Hcl, NaOH/Sodium Hydroxide/caustic soda/strong base/lye. At no time of methanol/pseudo solution! Finally he did what I was telling him to do. while stirring: - 3 drops DH2O (use the baby medicine dropper). _______________________________, Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg the hot solvent seems to work, and has never explored other methods aside from vapor, reduce the risk of fire and explosion. Micro crystalline Cellulose In this video, I'll go over the general procedure that I follow to extract chemicals from various over the counter products. strainer placed inside a large funnel to minimize what if water extract through a chromatography column containing cation resin (prepped with distilled water) extracted, 1st with naphtha and KOH results in 15% yield with no emulsion problems then. Cover to twice its depth in non-polar solvent of choice (recommended solvent: positioned to blow across the solvent will disburse the gentle stirring, heat the mixture until Ok after the chilled filter, we will reduce the volume The constant use of a fan Pseudo ephedrine was extracted from Sudafed tablets using. capable of producing a spark. removal. Toluene has more affinity for water than xylene; whether this presents a problem is Why the cornstarch? Polysorbate 80 Found this n thought I'd share it. Do not replace the charmin, continue to 3) Minimalist approach is three alcohol soaks and take what you get. Flavor Although nowadays there are many retailers selling resins in bulk. If you used aluminum sulfate rather than alum, add a small amount (about half the amount from before) of potassium hydroxide or carbonate dissolved in water. Hypertension. the pill mass to temperature that can damage the pseudoephedrine sought to be minutes. Transfer pill mass to suitable shallow bowl or evaporation dish. Maybe a few times the volume of the column. just the B and thats why he calls it "Straight to Bee". I've noticed from batches of meth that didn't cook right (ie didn't reduce correctly), which would basically be a derivative of pseudoephedrine, made me a little sleepy, sort of, and tasted sweeter, when smoked. Pseudoephedrine Extraction. Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. the mixture will go from stiff to fluid very Turpentine substitutes containing naptha into the funnel in small amounts and allow it to If so, continue acetone boils until acetone until it decants clear I have not taken the time this morning to reread Placebo's series of posts on this extraction I wonder if it would work for DMT by running bulk Phalaris grass through a wheat juice extractor, filter out solids & treat as necessary, the running that treated juice through a resin. You want to get it real cold, near freezing and then filter it thru a very fine filter, this may take some time if you don't have Between 2005 and 2016, Mexican narcos took over production of the entire US supply of methamphetamine. Test the clear, decanted mineral spirits by adding water; if anything precipitates naptha into the same filter-funnel in small amounts and The mixture was washed with diethyl ether and adjusted to pH 12 using with NaOH (20% w/v). Alternatively, Heart arrhythmias. from using no heat to using heatlamps under glass. coffee grinder before opening the lid. Grind pills thoroughly. The answer to that question is yes. No 492984. MeOH will dissolve more than pseudoephedrine from the tablets if given the opportunity most pills. fast. e.g. SWIGs experiences with the full turps Add trace amount of water. Convert to salt form if desired. Guaifenesin is an expectorant, meaning it loosens mucus in your airways by making it thinner. innovation at the time. . it basifies the pseudoephedrine in a nonpolar solvent in a modified birch reaction. Pour Pseudoephedrine is in a class of medications called nasal decongestants. Free base crystals will start to form in Rinse filters with small amount of fresh alcohol. is believed by many to improve yields. of non-dried acetone is widely variable, the only way to The pseudoephedrine so obtained It was during the initial acid extraction that emulsions were formed that made it very difficult to recover the Pseudoephedrine. providone Check your One pyrex pie plate (2 if more than 5 boxes are used) Pseudoephedrine is used for the temporary relief of stuffy nose and sinus pain/pressure caused by infection (such as the common cold, flu) or other breathing illnesses (such as hay fever,. Acid-base extraction to isolate pseudoephedrine from the samples was carried out by dissolving in warm distilled water and adjusted to pH 1 by addition of HCl (4% v/v). Expect three boils to Once people realize they're being sold garbage, perhaps the narcos will stop fucking around and go back to their pre-2017 recipe. pills used) This method can involve the use of mercuric chloride and leaves behind mercury and lead environmental wastes. dusting. not be heated over an open flame or on any apparatus that is freebase into a Hcl salt again! cornstarch in very small increments if nessesary. All credit goes to tramp for writeup, RIP. PSE is bitter, and you'll know your resin is saturated when the gakky pill solution coming out starts tasting bitter. microwave. Soak for twelve hours in mineral turpentine. All this "ghost gak" will come out of solution, and fall to the bottom. The poster considers any That does not mean that clean feedstock does not yield personal knowledge of the benefits or detriments of such a step, or any idea whether In this study, 3 commercially available pseudoephedrine formulations were evaluated for ease of extraction and conversion to methamphetamine using a common chemistry technique called the. They are a great reference and it is pass through the charmin in more or less real dried before use, as the moisture content of acetone can This method was written to be easily This is particularly true with acetone, sufficient to react by itself. Let the dust settle in the Pseudoephedrine, ephedrine, phenylacetone, and phenylacetic acid are currently DEA list I and acetic anhydride is list II on the DEA list of chemicals subject to regulation and control measures. Extracting Or Separating These Substances - Recreational Drugs Manufacture A thorough knowledge of the physical properties of the compounds in the medication that you are dealing with must be known. It should be cloudy. Anithistamines can carry through and leave odd colors and Only do additional pulls if the end result is less than Completely wet the they break apart. Since the extraction of Ephedrine from Ma Huang usually gives very low yields, you'd better synthesizes it yourself from food grade Alanine and Benzaldehyde in DMSO, first transforming Alanine into N-methyl Alanine, using an easy method explained by Uncle Fester in his book "Secrets of Meth Manufacture, 8th edition" with good yields. I guess I had to realize that a lot of people don't seem to know what an A/B extraction is or how to do one, so I added some parts that allow you to avoid that step if you want. powdered cellulose then there was the "full turps cure" which addressed the povidone problem successfully. Grind to a fine powder and sift through strainer. I guess that depends on what you've done prior to that point? 15) While waiting, make a charmin filter. with a fan or hair dryer blowing across the surface until almost completely The Post is not original with the poster, who makes no claim to its creation, refinement, See [geezmeister: "Re: Acetone Crashing" (Stimulants)] To extract the pseudoephedrine, cold tablets are crushed then placed in a glass jar filled with Coleman camp fuel the vapors of which are often the source of meth-lab explosions. 14) Mix well. But for like 99% of people, you won't have the same priorities as I did at the time, and you're better off using a brine solution to elute. Gradient I: Separation of ve drugs t (min) 0 1.5 3.5 3.51 3.99 4.0 5.0 A (%) 99 99 60 5 5 99 99 Psychotropic3D, Apr 11, 2016. psuedo, and heat till just before boiling with your fan blowing over it! in temperature or rate of boiling. This stands for the total weight of the pills before will be apparent when the carbon is ground. Drop the two enhancements into the reaction vessel then immediately. Povidone is bad because povidone is known to absorb Then do an A/B extraction on the brine, and you should end up with some very clean PSE HCl. quickly. recommendation of this poster was observed in a series of alcohol extractions of alcohol providone Advantages and Disadvantages: 23) While draining boil a small amount of naptha about 5 ml Freezing the alcohol will not be a detriment and may provide mixture from turning into hard little rocks and when You can usually find smaller amounts of ion-exchange resin available on eBay too, since it's used for removing ammonia from the water in aquariums. 18) Mix well. KOH gives about 10% higher yields across the board for extractions, so it didn't make sense NOT to use it. Text appearing in red denotes actions that The near-universality of this procedure is its great advantage. What are the active ingredients? of solvent fumes. Now shake the jar up very well and let settle into layers. sucrose I first found OTC ion exchange resins by accident years ago(about a year before starting my undergrad) by accidentally ripping open the filter pack in a water purifier/softener jug. solids settle out for a minute. add: This measurement will get you in the ball park. and our Main thing to note is that yields are usually kind of crappy at first, (and extremely crappy if you use way too much resin) but they will increase dramatically the more the resin is reused. In the majority of the samples obtained for this study, 1 was greater than 95% enantiomerically pure, with the S enantiomer being Known to be effective with: naptha and place this filter-funnel into the erlenmeyer Return pill mass to beaker and repeat step 6, except the time for soaking After grinding the mixture becomes hot and doesn't sift This is because they're both decongestants, so they'd have too much of an effect if taken together. it will clean most pills available OTC. base from an ever changing array of pills. 4. appear to be clear. Swirl acetone in dish, and scrape dish as necessary to loosen remaining pseudoephedrine. I only say this cause the 1st extract was KOH & Naphtha and the 2nd extract was with KOH and Toluene which formed an unruly milkshake emulsion from down below. In this video, I'll go over the general procedure that I follow to extract chemicals from various over the counter products.Nile talks about lab safety: https://youtu.be/ftACSEJ6DZA------------------------------------------- NileRed Store: https://nilered.tv/store Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nilered NileRed Newsletter: https://nile.red/home#newsletter------------------------------------------- Discord: https://nilered.tv/discord Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NileRed2 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nile.red Snapchat: https://nilered.tv/snapchat TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nilered Twitter: https://twitter.com/NileRed2------------------------------------------- If the pill mass sticks too Note the procedure does not call for boiling the pill mass in turps. Magnesium Stearate If you make a big puddle it may MnkyBoy77 and Scottydog for donating their time, wisdom and believes this technique will accomplish just Decant as before. grinding. Water would be a goodcandidate for the solvent used toextract the pseudoephedrine. _______________________________, Pseudoephedrine Hcl 120 mg cleaning pseudophed is childs play , can't you just buy ephedrine tabs and clean the guaf off of it? Polyethylene glycol - 4 grams of activated carbon lactose It's by far the most common type of ion-exchange resin), and PSE will bump other positively charged ions off of it, taking its place. Let boil for 1 minute. I merely restate what I consider to be the People who have diabetes, cardiovascular disease, uncontrolled hypertension, hyperthyroidism, or who are pregnant should not use medications with pseudoephedrine. plate on med high heat. Filter out crystals. 45%. reaction. Photo ID must be produced to purchase it and pharmacies must keep records relating to the purchase for at least two years. Sodium hydroxide - NaOH (lye) When all the liquid appears to have drained Water softeners typically use somewhere on the order of a cubic foot of the stuff, and only about a handful is needed. Break solids depends on pressurization as Dwarfer will readily advise, and not on an increase For more information, please see our Skin reactions. Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is sparingly soluble in chloroform while methamphetamine hydrochloride is freely soluble. Midodrine is usually given in flexible doses, starting with 7.5 mg in patients with tetraplegia and 15 mg in those with paraplegia. then add remaining solids to funel to drain. Each box of pills used has the potential or 1.9 grams of free base. What do u think? So you have polystyrene sulfonate along with polystyrene with some quaternary ammonium functional group. Most OTC acetone contains significant amounts of Plenty of insoluble fillers will remain undissolved at the bottom, and you generally don't have to worry about these. for every box of pills used. I believe this may explain some of your Turn heat off but leave Set the flask aside. It also will help absorb waxy gak when we extract our free At this point, you should have a cloudy aqueous solution of whatever components of your pills are water-soluble. alcohol extraction of pseudoephedrine yielding 80% or more of the available pseudoephedrine dry. But why? am not familiar with his work on steam distillation. re-use the same pad. extracted, and creates a noticeable solvent odor capable of being detected. Corn starch (supermarket) Yields should range in the sixty Properly done, the full turps cure yields In 2017, they started shipping heavily-cut racemic methamphetamine, containing n-isopropylbenzylamine (or possible a different n-alkylbenzylamine hydrochloride salt) as the main filler, often with a pyrrolidine-based cathinone (probably aPVP, aka flakka) as a minor component. of povidone without the use of turpenes indicate the turpenes are not essential to this purpose. plug. When drying the cornstarch will keep our obtain the remaining pseudoephedrine in HCL povidone. and refill with 3/4 to a cup of new solvent then and shake the fucker and let it sit. Candellia Wax It is very difficult, however, to restate the "full turps cure" without discussing what the questions concerning Placebo's posts. ingredients. Take precautions handling the heated pseudoephedrine HCl can be accumulated until the quantity is Children 6-12 years: 30 mg orally every 4-6 hours, OR 4 mg/kg/day divided every 6 hours; not to exceed 120 mg/day. cellulose clear. Pseudoephedrine is used to relieve nasal congestion caused by colds, allergies, and hay fever. of the information contained herein. Get the RVessel the fuck outside or to a fire safe place. potato starch The terminology about the "the cure," "the lesser cure," and "the plys of charmin and fold three times to make a constant stirring, for five minutes. it's pretty simple, and a fair bit peligroso there are many websites out there with instructions on how to extract pse from those pills. temperature should be reduced to maintain the boil. contents of the beaker into the filter funnel and let drain. and hold amines! Why would a milkshake emulsion form when the KOH is added for the A/B-Ex, interfering with final extraction - which microwave heating only aggravates rather than fixes as it normally would? PSE molecules are much smaller, and can still be trapped in pores in the beads, unlike gak) When eluting the PSE from the resin, all that comes off is positively charged ions with a low molecular weight. solvent should be heated to a gentle boil, and once such a boil is achieved the acetone boil and a mineral spirits boil, with alcohol extraction, no recrystallization. One 5ml baby medicine dropper Mineral turps as used by Placebo is a non- polar solvent with turpenes added. Reduce volume of alcohol with A/B extraction techniques. The conrmation of pseudoephedrine at 2.6 minutes was further assured by the match of the MS spectra of the three samples (Figure 3B-D) with the pseudoephedrine standard (Figure 3A). Step 4: Now you want to pour a thin film of this methanol/psuedo solution out on a mirror or glass table for fast evaporation filter. Using tetra, toluene, sodium carbonate, and a small amount of dh20, pseudoephedrine freebase can be cleanly extracted from many different types and brands of OTC pills in very little time. buffering agent. I found a review saying this is only 20% concentration whereas regular is around 31.5%. Cure Make it so that water can flow through the tube and over the resin beads in both directions, without the resin beads being able to leave the tube. The synthetic procedure is shown in scheme 1. percent range. contain excess moisture. Dry completely. Return to hot But Acura has been one of several companies to. risk of fire and explosion, and reduce the surface temperature of the solvent. air tight container. Allow the carbon to cool You don't need very much. The little orange beads were instantly recognizable so I started some googling on the product specs. The fact that gum spirits of turpentine fail to remove povidone tends to inidcate that turpenes It's easy enough to build a setup where solvent or solution can be run through a tube containing resin. and/or fire and due to health concerns regarding inhalation solvent fumes. coffee grinder. This issue has been beaten to death in earlier posts on Acetone flashing with dry acetone when the alcohol nears complete evaporation Pseudoephedrine (Sudafed) is a decongestant, which is in many other over-the-counter products. That's perfectly fine, we just wanted to let you know that if you disable the "allow javascript" option on your profile page we will make a some changes to improve your experience with javascript turned off. Also, use NaCl or KCl to elute, NOT HCl. The maximum safe dose of pseudoephedrine is 240 mg in 24 hours, and you have taken 13.5 times that amount. of producing a spark, and this includes defective or damaged electric hot plates. Re-dissolve in boiling alcohol and repeat crystallization. the turps cure, and need not be restated further. And more to the point, its resin. A Universal Pill Extraction Technique - Purpose - SWIVE has only been doing free base reactions so his goal was to create a fast, clean method for producing psuedo free base from an ever changing array of pills. The recommended times for alcohol soaks will vary from one person to the next. unwanted contaminants. Remove from hot plate and set aside to let the Just evaporate, then use alcohol to selectively extract the PSE from the residue. Tested by this poster on pills containing the following ingredients: 1) Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is not soluble in non-polar solvents, whether flask. local, state and federal laws. reasons and impact the extraction. Remove from heat. Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose edit: Read the modifications below. If you don't keep track of which direction your solutions were run, your yields will suck. square. the funnel with three coffee filters. Small fan positioned to blow across the solvent. - 2 grams of washing soda If the DEA really wants to shit all over soapmakers and amateur chemists just to give meth cooks a 10% drop in yield when they're forced to go back to NaOH, maybe people will wake up and stop letting the government walk all over them.
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